What Car Segment would you kill?

"GE90man" (ge90man) 03/22/2016 at 19:46 • Filed to: qotd, wwyr, wwyd

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what segment of cars do you hate and wish the world can be free of? well now your dreams can be a reality! *only in oppo* if you were to pick one car segment you hated and wanted to rid the world of, what would it be?

personally for me it would be the cheap luxury car segment, which is basically telling the world I only care about the badge on the front of my car. the manufactures that make these cars understand that too, and therefore those cars are poor in quality and driving feel and do not stick true to their manufacture’s roots. (X1, Cla, Gla)

interstate366, now In The Industry > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:48

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Crossovers.

GE90man > interstate366, now In The Industry 03/22/2016 at 19:49

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that would’ve been the second segment I would have killed

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:49

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4 door crossovers WITH sloping roof lines...

CB > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:50

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None. Having options is a good thing, even if they’re not great.

GE90man > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 03/22/2016 at 19:50

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I was thinking about that too. in fact, it was seeing the newly revealed GLC coupe that made me think about this question to ask

GE90man > CB 03/22/2016 at 19:52

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nice philosophy. but with the cheap luxury cars segment, I just feel that there are many better options for that price. I mean if people just want a badge, then go for it.

Autofixation > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:56

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Luxury pickups, Denali, Platinum, King Ranch, Long Horn, pretty much any pickup approaching the options of a Mercedes or Audi...

RallyWrench > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:56

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Lifted 4x4 coupe things. Call them crossbastards.

CB > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:56

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Maybe we’ll see companies actually improve their cheap luxury cars with time? Could be a possibility.

GE90man > CB 03/22/2016 at 19:58

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the x1 seems to have improved... slightly in quality... less to bmw roots

. . > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 19:58

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Definitely ‘coupe’ SUVs. Fuck them.

Mark - Sixpots None The Richer > RallyWrench 03/22/2016 at 19:58

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Yes! Let’s get rid of this plight as soon as possible!

HammerheadFistpunch > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:00

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Sedans. Nothing that wouldnt be better as a coupe or wagon

GE90man > HammerheadFistpunch 03/22/2016 at 20:01

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now that’s not an answer I usually get

EL_ULY > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:02

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Hypercars. Used REAL racecars are faster and cheaper. No car should be worth more than $500,000 brand new

GE90man > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 20:04

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yes true, most hypercars never get over 70 miles per hour in their lifetime sadly. the whole segment was flawed to begin with. building a fast road car. but the road is regulated, and usually slow with traffic.

Saracen > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:05

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Crossover coupes. They all need to just die in a fire.

Saracen > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 20:07

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Hell to the No.

Hypercars are such a small segment of the industry, and yet killing it would only do one thing, and that is devoid so many of us of getting to lust over them.

Your argument does not stand up.

Brickman > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:09

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Compact sedans. Trunk is so small it’s useless, no head or leg room in the rear. Hatchback is better :)

C62030 > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:09

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Rear-engined, German coupes that all have the same interior and have all looked exactly alike since 1963.

GE90man > C62030 03/22/2016 at 20:11

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good one

EL_ULY > Saracen 03/22/2016 at 20:12

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We lust over them for their tech, beauty, detail, innovations, and speed. I personally think those sorts of things should be applied to the track instead of Rodeo Drive.

EL_ULY > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:13

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Exactly. It’s a shame because the tech is incredible on these things. What a waste

Saracen > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 20:15

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They ARE applied to the track. Racing improves the breed.

McLaren, Porsche, Ferrari, race cars are loaded with the tech you find in their hypercars.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 20:28

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I don’t really want to kill anything, but there are things I would like to add to the US market. More coupes, more hatchbacks, more wagons, and more SMALL pickups. Unfortunately the people have spoken, which is why we have 4 door coupes, sloped crossovers with no utility, and gigantic monolithic trucks.

smobgirl > HammerheadFistpunch 03/22/2016 at 20:59

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I was going to specify economy sedans, but sure. Get rid of ‘em all.

TractorPillow > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 21:31

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I really liked the GLA250. Did not feel cheap and was pretty fun to drive; I also think it looks great.

scoob > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 21:38

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Highly disagree.

Without cars like the P1/918/LaF (I’d even argue the Teslas), cars and tech relating to cars and other forms of transportation will never ever ever advance. Pollution will keep on happening, crazy weather will keep killing cute baby penguins and polar bears, hatred for our beloved autos will multiply, and then Alissa Walker will stick her articles in our collective face and say “I told you so.” :P

It’s like saying why do we need flagship smartphones? Nobody needs the fastest processor, the most RAM, or whatever. That’s true, nobody absolutely needs those stuff. But look where we’ve come from:

and where we are now:

And to bring it back to cars, this is what we thought of when we heard “hybrid”:

And now we have the hypercar trio which are called hybrids:

With all the upcoming electric hypercars, I can’t wait for that to trickle down to our pleb cars.

Hopefully within the next hundred years. :P

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 21:45

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Plenty of these entry level luxury cars are worthy of their badges.

EL_ULY > Saracen 03/22/2016 at 22:05

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I guess I meant the others (Konighdhdjdameoegn, Pagani, Bugatti, and a bunch of start up s1 mil + cars that don’t race ever) Either way, KERS type technology in the Ferrari and McLaren do nothing on a street. FXX-K and GTR versions of those I totally underatand! Again, not for the regulated streets

GE90man > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/22/2016 at 22:14

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a3 maybe, but FWD bmw x1? ehh. FWD based CLA and cheap build quality... for a Mercedes? i’d say double ehh

EL_ULY > scoob 03/22/2016 at 22:15

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Those cars exist as hybrid race monsters because they adapted it from racing. Racing can also develop a better Earth for all penguins while staying rad for us hoons. A tad bit difficult though for a Pagani, Bugatti , Keonignejdjdjegg, 918, P1, and other $1mil+ hypercars om regulated city streets. A road version of KERS technology can only go so far when the speed limit is 35mph. They beast tech will trickle down to us lowly humans even quicker if all these hypercar resources that are being developed go straight to racing and then straight to normal cars, jumping $1mil+ hypercars.

Though, in the sake of finding equal ground. Why not make flagship speed machines strickly like the FXX-K and the P1 GTR. A real type racecar for all the millionaire’s race car fix. Would you rather an FXX-K at Spa or Agera R through a street that features active school zones

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 22:16

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I thought the X1 is AWD only?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 22:18

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I may be alone here, but I’d rather go out and spot million-dollar hypercar on the street than go to some race any day! Closed course racing bores me.

scoob > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 22:24

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I know this only applies to Koenigsegg, but I’d rather the Koenigsegg as they are also doing some crazy futuristic stuff like the supposed camless engines.

But back to your point, those companies need more ways to make back the money they spent to develop new stuff, and one way that’ll happen is if their millionaire billionaire customers have a cool, if useless to us, reason to spend their money. They’d never put that tech in a little family hatchback and sell it for cheap, at least not any time soon.

EL_ULY > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/22/2016 at 22:29

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Your not alone. My theory is a bit extreme. It’s mostly is towards the Bugatti Cheerio, Koenigshdjjsegg whatever, Pagani Whozit, and all those Hypercar start ups whose cars are over 1, 2, or 3 million dollars. To those 1,500+ HP things, all I gotta say is, prove it on a track, then thy props will be had :]

Besides, I like racing because of the teams, drivers, and competitive aspect over the cars specifically

scoob > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 22:36

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But hey, if Tesla’s Model 3 really does go on sale for cheap then I guess you’re right :P

Chasaboo > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 22:41

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SUVs, they’re a menace on the road. And try riding a motorcycle anywhere near them on the freeway. They don’t give a crap about you. They can all rollover and die a fiery death.

EL_ULY > scoob 03/22/2016 at 22:41

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I remember (I think BMW) was experimenting with camless engines since 2004. It’s nothing new. Also, variable compression engines (head traveling of sleeves)

But any who, that tech, even if it’s a diluted form, will be rad in normal human cars. Fingers crossed

EL_ULY > scoob 03/22/2016 at 22:43

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I want that in my life so bad. More importantly, I want BMW, Ford, Subaru, everyone! to compete and improve this monumental segment!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 22:43

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See, I’m the Opposite. I don’t much care about following drivers. If there was a racing series without so much as sponsor stickers or racing slicks, where you bought a car from the dealer, fitted it with a roll cage if the safety people insisted, and then took it to the track, I might consider watching.

scoob > EL_ULY 03/22/2016 at 22:47

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We should start a racing series like that. ELECTRIC HATCHBACKS WILL PREVAIL! :P

EL_ULY > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/22/2016 at 22:49

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Yeeees! I’d like to see that also :]

EL_ULY > scoob 03/22/2016 at 22:50

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Oh yes yes yeeeees!

GE90man > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/22/2016 at 22:56

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new one is based on a fwd platform while still being AWD

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 23:01

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My car is theoretically based on a FWD platform. Can’t say I notice much.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 23:04

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I’d kill any and all CUV/SUV wannabe that has a transverse engine and a FWD-based drivetrain. FUCK OFF. Stop crossing car genres.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > GE90man 03/22/2016 at 23:51

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Large Fwd sedans (Impala, Xts, Lexus ES class) if for no other reason than the fact that the fwd mid-size class is getting quite large.

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > GE90man 03/23/2016 at 00:25

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anything that comes in auto transmission only

pip bip - choose Corrour > GE90man 03/23/2016 at 04:42

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SUV’s

Whatevs > Brickman 03/23/2016 at 10:18

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Sure. You can easily throw a fridge or a load of mulch in a hatchback...

Brickman > Whatevs 03/23/2016 at 10:35

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A small fridge and a bag of mulch :P

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > smobgirl 03/23/2016 at 17:09

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Subcompact sedans with a hatch version. Just why? They're always styled as a hatch first, leaving the sedan looking awkward and being less functional.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > GE90man 03/23/2016 at 17:10

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SUV “coupes”. Ugly, impractical, expensive, and useless.

smobgirl > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 03/23/2016 at 17:15

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EXACTLY!

touring the brook - now with ZHP! > GE90man 03/23/2016 at 20:41

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Luxury Truck:

It’s big

It’s brash

It guzzles gas

Takes up TWO PARKING SPACES ALL THE TIME!!

Take this. A Silverado High Country. With 4WD it starts at a little bit over 52K. I’d much rather have a Suburban LT with 4WD for 58K.